Thought waves on seed venture

Grant McCarthy
Managing Partner

Co-founder, sounding board, visionary. Grant leverages a background in digital media and 20+ years of experience investing in seed companies in Asia & Australia and advising early-stage founders on their most critical challenges. He encourages big picture thinking, and guides companies to see strategic opportunities, build product-market fit, and prepare for institutional capital raising. Formerly Yahoo.

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Riding the waves of entrepreneurship with Guy Kawasaki and Grant McCarthy
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Riding the waves of entrepreneurship with Guy Kawasaki and Grant McCarthy

OG technology evangelist Guy Kawasaki joined Tidal Managing Partner and Co-Founder Grant McCarthy to discuss the characteristics of remarkable founders and how to navigate the long and exciting journey of being an entrepreneur.
Grant McCarthy
Grant McCarthy
22 Apr 2024
5 min read

In the ever-evolving world of technology and investment, where timing can dictate destiny, a spur-of-the-moment encounter between Tidal Managing Partner Grant McCarthy and renowned tech evangelist Guy Kawasaki led to a fruitful dialogue. As Grant recalls, what began as an ambitious plan to host an event during Guy’s visit to Sydney soon faced logistical hurdles reminiscent of the challenges startups often encounter. Luckily, fate intervened, leading to a meeting in San Francisco where, sharing surfboards and experiences, a connection formed. Beyond their love for surfing, Guy and Grant share a keen eye for tech investment opportunities shaped by their respective journeys.

For Guy, it has been marked by his pivotal roles during the early Apple days and advising Canva during their early product development. Grant’s journey to becoming the technologist he is today is equally storied. Amidst the frenetic energy of the dot-com bubble, Grant dove headfirst into the tech scene, joining Yahoo as its 14th Australian employee. He played a pivotal role in shaping the company’s trajectory, working across some of its earliest investments, including industry leaders like Seek and Carsales. At Tidal, he’s backed ventures like Shippit, now valued at $300m and FrankieOne from their earliest stages.

These shared early tech experiences make for a good yarn filled with valuable insights into how to build and grow a tech company, offering a firsthand perspective on what it truly takes to succeed.

The role of luck and timing

Grant emphasises the importance of recognising the “corporate lotto cycle” in startups, where success often depends on fortuitous timing and circumstances. Reflecting on his journey, Guy candidly acknowledges, “Yeah, I worked for Apple. I worked for Canva. I was on the Wikipedia board of directors and a Mercedes Benz brand ambassador. I’m trying to paint this picture, but I really don’t know what the hell I’m doing all the time.” Guy believes that luck isn’t merely a matter of chance but a culmination of factors aligning at the right moment. “It’s not just because you have growth and grit,” he asserts. “It takes luck, and it takes, you know, some teacher in your past, some coach in your past, some mentor in your past. A lot of things have to line up to be remarkable.”

Guy’s journey with Canva mirrors the unpredictable nature of startup fortunes. Drawing parallels to his early days at Apple, he recalls the pivotal moment when Canva’s potential became apparent. His social media manager’s recommendation and personal experience led him to adopt the “Peter Lynch theory” of investing in products he uses. This mix of personal conviction and timing underscores the relationship between luck and strategic insight. Just as luck and timing played a role in Guy and Grant’s meeting in San Francisco, so too do they shape the trajectories of startups—highlighting the importance of seizing opportunities and cultivating meaningful connections.

Remarkable founders know how to “turn and burn”

Luck and timing aren’t the only things that matter; remarkable founders also know how to make good decisions and be flexible when things don’t go according to plan. Guy, the surfer he is, likens this process to the “turn and burn” manoeuvre, which requires founders to seize opportunities, adapt to evolving conditions, and navigate uncertainty with confidence and precision.

As Guy puts it, “As soon as you make your decision, you switch from, is this the right decision to making the decision right?” In the same vein, he elaborates on the intricacies of surfing, highlighting how “you’re trying to sit in the right place, you’re trying to turn at the right time, you’re trying to paddle in the right direction, you’re trying to pop up at the right time. There’s a lot of variables.” Guy emphasises, “That’s what makes surfing so hard... at some level, once you turn and burn and start paddling, it’s all about making the decision. You got to compensate. You got to change. You got to do whatever you got to do. It’s about making the decision right when push comes to shove.”

Grant highlights that unique early-stage challenges, like figuring out product-market fit and scalable go-to-market strategies, can often involve guesswork. “A lot of the time, particularly in the early stage, at the seed stage, you’re guessing a lot of the time,” Grant explains. Grant’s insight adds another dimension to the “turn and burn” approach, underscoring the delicate balance founders must have between intuition and strategy.

You’re trying to align yourself with people you think are quality, people you can work with who will make hard and fast decisions and have a cadence of speed in doing things.

Finding the balance in product development and sales efforts

Every successful startup’s heart lies in a dual focus: building a remarkable product and effectively selling it to the market. As Guy succinctly says, “100% of your focus should be on making and selling it.” Take, for example, the iconic partnership between Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak, where their synergy in product innovation and sales acumen laid the foundation for Apple’s unprecedented success.

Grant echoes this sentiment, emphasising the need for startups to prioritise product excellence early on. He affirms that startups armed with a remarkable product, addressing a pressing problem across geographies, often find themselves ahead in the sales game. “With a great product that solves a really hard problem,” Grant advises, “you don’t have sales problems.” However, he highlights that the real challenge for startups with a great product lies in acquiring the right sales talent and capabilities to leverage this product advantage effectively. Grant’s insight sheds light on the pivotal role that sales capability plays in translating product potential into tangible business growth.

How Grant and Guy identify founders with promising potential

Having spoken to countless founders over the years, both seasoned investors pay close attention to the founder’s character—specifically their potential to grow and endure the challenges of the startup journey. Grant points out how important it is to understand the founder’s mindset early on, stating, “One of the things that we’ve always tried to do at Tidal is spend as much time with these founders early in their problem-solving product mindset of what and how they’re going to build something.” For Tidal, it’s not solely about assessing a founder’s technical skills or industry knowledge but also about predicting the founder’s evolution as they go on their journey.

Grant explains:

It’s not only how good they are at product or what knowledge they have about the problem, but also what kind of person they will be as they go through that process.

This is at the core of Tidal’s investment principles, primarily driven by our distinctive operator-led approach. Unlike conventional venture capital firms led by investors, being operator-led means your investors are individuals with firsthand experience as founders and builders of tech companies. Tidal is committed to working closely with founders, offering them insights and advice from practical experience rather than mere theoretical knowledge.

Being the right “asshole” leader

Drawing from four decades of frontline experience, Guy asserts his authority on a subject, saying, “I have become an expert in assholes.” He swiftly clarifies, not in the proctology sense, eliciting a chuckle from Grant. Guy distinguishes between two breeds of such leaders: the egocentric and the mission-driven. The former, he elaborates, is consumed by self-glorification, exemplified by an entourage and a penchant for ego gratification.

In contrast, the mission-driven “asshole” is driven by a singular purpose, unyielding in the pursuit of their vision. He cites Steve Jobs as a prime example of the latter, lauding his focus on creativity and productivity over self-aggrandisement. Grant concurs, emphasising the importance of tyrannical focus in realising one’s mission, a trait reminiscent of Jobs’ legendary dedication. Guy reflects on his time working with Jobs, acknowledging the fear he instilled while underscoring his genuine desire to revolutionise the computer business.

Navigating different mindsets and self-belief in leadership

The distinction between growth and fixed mindsets has profound implications for leadership. Guy believes that having a fixed mindset constrains personal advancement and leads to biases hindering company growth. He articulates, “The fixed mindset is the mindset that you believe that you cannot gain new skills, that, if you open yourself up to the vulnerability of learning new things, it may be at one level embarrassing or even worse, it’ll mark you as a failure.”

This mindset often permeates hiring practices, leading founders to favour candidates who mirror their own attributes, potentially limiting diversity and innovation within the team. Fostering a growth mindset empowers founders to embrace continual learning and adaptability. As Guy highlights, “The growth mindset, by contrast, says that you can grow, you can expand, you can learn, you can do things.”

The three common founder mistakes to avoid in early-stage startups

Mistake 1: Hiring biases and lack of diversity

Guy highlights the detrimental impact of hiring biases, particularly when founders gravitate towards hiring individuals who mirror their personas or demographics. He argues that such bias reflects a need for a growth mindset, stifling innovation and progress within the startup ecosystem. Companies that embrace diversity show they’re fostering a mission-driven culture where the focus is on potential hires being part of a solution to a problem.

Mistake 2: Neglecting sales efforts

Another critical mistake is the tendency for early-stage founders to neglect sales efforts, leading to running out of funds. As Guy emphasises, “sales fixes everything.” He cautions against diverting excessive resources towards superficial “strategic” initiatives at the expense of core revenue-generating activities, stating, “When you start throwing around a strategic... you’re full of it. Because you know what? We don’t want strategic shit. We want money. We want sales.” Guy’s insight underscores the necessity of prioritising tangible sales outcomes over abstract strategic pursuits, highlighting the importance of generating revenue for sustaining business growth and viability.

Mistake 3: Underestimating time and effort in feature implementation

The final mistake is when founders don’t understand the complexity and effort required to build their technology. This tendency often leads to overpromising delivery timelines and revenue potential, resulting in disappointment among stakeholders. Guy stresses the necessity of realistic planning and diligent execution to avoid the pitfalls of overcommitment and subsequent under-delivery. Guy jokes, “Whenever a CEO tells me when something will ship and how much revenue will be generated, I add one year to the shipping date and divide it by 100.” Grant adds to this, suggesting, “I would say add a year, double the cost and half the revenue.”

How to win the AI race

To Guy, AI is a transformative force poised to revolutionise the world—a sentiment aligned with Tidal’s thesis. His belief in the transformative power of AI is unwavering, as he asserts, “I think that AI is a bigger deal than mobile phones, Internet, social media, personal computing.” This conviction stems from his extensive experience in the tech industry, where he has witnessed firsthand the profound impact of technological innovations. Amidst the growing impact of AI, Guy emphasises the importance of authenticity and substance, cautioning against the superficial use of AI as a buzzword. “Show me a company that isn’t using AI,” Guy challenges.

“If you’re saying you’re using AI, you better really be using AI in some significant way. You’re not just blowing smoke to increase the valuation of your company. I think when all the dust settles, you know, you cannot bullshit your way out of this.”

Grant, aligning with Guy’s perspective, recognises the increasing ubiquity of AI in everyday business operations. He acknowledges, “The really interesting thing is people are just generally starting to use it in their everyday business for everyday things.” This observation underscores the growing adoption of AI across various sectors, reflecting its expanding role in driving efficiency and innovation. However, Grant emphasises the importance of substance over rhetoric, echoing Guy’s sentiment that mere lip service to AI is insufficient. “You got to look at that and figure out that just saying the words AI is not going to buy you much longer,” Grant asserts. “Show what you’re actually doing with it as a product.”

Both Guy and Grant advocate for a pragmatic approach to AI adoption—one rooted in genuine innovation and tangible impact. Their insights highlight the need for founders and businesses to move beyond buzzwords and focus on delivering real value through AI-powered solutions. As the AI landscape continues to evolve, their guidance serves as a beacon for navigating the complexities of this transformative technology.

The key to navigating different market cycles

In navigating the ever-shifting market tides, seasoned tech veterans offer invaluable insights honed through weathering multiple market cycles, including the dot-com bubble, the global financial crisis (GFC), and the recent COVID-19 pandemic.

Grant talks about the enduring nature of successful journeys amidst fluctuating market cycles. Reflecting on the prolonged timelines inherent in building successful startups, Grant emphasises the futility of fixating on market cycles:

When you start businesses, you are often on potentially multi-decade journeys. So, worrying about where a market cycle is up is out of your control. What you do have control over is your product and your sales.

Guy agrees that market fluctuations are insignificant compared to the laser focus founders must maintain on their companies’ goals. “I don’t care if venture capital is up or down or startups are up or down. All an entrepreneur needs to care about is your company.” His perspective underscores the importance of prioritising your own company over external market forces, regardless of prevailing conditions.

Tips for founders pitching their startups

Guy’s mantra, the 10-20-30 rule, serves as a guiding light for startup pitches. It advocates for ten slides, twenty minutes, and a minimum font size of thirty points. Yet, beyond slide counts and font sizes, Guy addresses a common pitfall among founders: the tendency to ramble instead of delivering a concise pitch.

At the heart of Guy’s advice lies a sense of urgency. Founders, he insists, are not flying lumbering Airbus 380s with endless runways at their disposal; they’re strapped into F-16s hurtling off aircraft carriers, where every second counts. In this high-stakes environment, the opening moments of a pitch are make-or-break. “So that means in the first 15 seconds, explain what the hell you do,” Guy advises. “Because until you explain what the hell you do, nobody gives a shit about your world-class technology or world-class background”.

We’re passionate about backing founders who disrupt markets and build transformative products that shape the future. If you’re working on an ambitious product that has the potential to revolutionise industries, get in touch.

Tidal Ventures’ Grant McCarthy on navigating the Generative AI revolution
Thought Waves

Tidal Ventures’ Grant McCarthy on navigating the Generative AI revolution

At Tidal, we use an ‘AI stack’ framework to structure our conversations. I’ll explain how we use it to frame our discussions around AI’s far-reaching investment implications, breaking down the layers that define this exciting technology field,
Grant McCarthy
Grant McCarthy
23 Nov 2023
5 min read

Being in the technology space for over 20+ years, I rarely get excited about the latest ‘tech’ cycle—I’ve found that they’re often more ‘novel-hype’ than substance. But the current wave of AI innovation is different.

I can’t overstate how quickly generative AI is materially changing the world around us and the way we interact with hardware and software. For those of us who witnessed the rise of the internet in the late ’90s or the ubiquity of mobile devices in the 2010s, you’ll likely agree that generative AI has accelerated with a much more meteoric ascent.

At Tidal Ventures, we use an ‘AI stack’ framework to structure our thinking and conversations. I’ll explain how we use it to frame our discussions around AI’s far-reaching investment implications, breaking down the layers that define this technology field and exploring their investment opportunities.

The AI stack

To effectively navigate the AI venture capital landscape, it’s crucial to understand the AI stack— which consists of three key layers: AI infrastructure, AI models, and AI applications.

AI infrastructure layer

At the base of the stack, you’ll find the infrastructure layer. This layer encompasses the essential hardware and cloud platforms that serve as the foundational building blocks upon which AI capabilities are constructed. It includes:

  • Hardware infrastructure: Specialised accelerator chips optimised for model training and inference workloads.
  • Cloud infrastructure: Comprising various cloud platforms that facilitate the large-scale computing required for AI-related operations.

AI models layer

The model layer plays a pivotal role in the AI landscape—these programs analyse datasets to find patterns and make predictions. The model layer encompasses:

  1. Foundational models are large, pre-trained models that serve as the base. Technologies like Google’s Bard and Meta’s Llama are crucial in bridging the gap between raw computing power and practical AI applications.
  2. Contextual models are trained on narrowed, industry-specific datasets. They are tailored to fulfil particular needs and act as the driving force behind various AI applications. Looks like BloombergGPT plans to do this for the finance world.
  3. Local models are trained on localised, often proprietary datasets, further refining AI’s capabilities for specific applications. LifeLenz and PredictHQ are key proprietary data sets within our portfolio.

AI applications layer

The application layer is at the top of the AI stack, where companies develop AI products and services for end-users (think Chat-GPT). These applications utilise local, contextual, and/or foundational models to provide a wide range of AI-powered solutions.

Tidal Ventures’ AI investment mindset

Tidal believes that the expanding and ubiquitous nature of cloud computing has quietly propelled multiple waves of technological innovation. As cloud technology continues to gain widespread adoption and the cost of computing resources continues to decrease, a transformative shift will not only continue but is set to accelerate. This shift will fuel the rapid expansion of artificial intelligence across diverse industries and applications, impacting the products and systems we use today in our everyday lives, both at work and at home.

Our focus, like always, is to find the very best product, engineering and commercial operators who have identified globally significant problems to solve. We look to zero in on these opportunities, which we’ve seen within Australia’s vibrant, innovative environment and beyond.

At Tidal Ventures, we’ve been investing in predictive AI for the past eight years. Our current portfolio includes companies that are revolutionising various sectors through AI, including:

  • BuildBetter: Automating and improving efficiency within workflows, providing insightful summaries, and enhancing product and customer operations.
  • FrankieOne: Enabling contextual payment processing and real-time fraud monitoring crucial for regulatory compliance.
  • Hone: Using their cloud-based Machine Learning and AI to enable farmers to make real-time decisions on grain segregation, optimising quality, and yield values.
  • LifeLenz: Using their proprietary AI-powered forecasting model to establish a global benchmark in labour scheduling.
  • PredictHQ: Leveraging proprietary data for improving economic value and enhancing services like Uber’s surge pricing.
  • Search.io: Enhancing customer conversion through personalisation and transforming the e-commerce landscape.
  • TheLoops: Providing SupportOps to improve customer experience and boost revenue, leading to customer delight.

LLMs

Today’s tech conversations seem to centre around large language models (LLMs). It looks like the obvious way an LLM would or wouldn’t win is by nailing their distribution model. Ultimately, we’re seeing the race to which LLM will be used at scale because the more an LLM is used, the more data it accumulates, which propels its self-learning cycle.

When viewing technology in terms of where we should be investing, new LLMs aren’t the clear choice due to their intense capital requirements and competitive environments. The LLM arms race has been underway for nearly a decade, and we don’t see a specific path to investing early-stage capital in this segment. The one area that may be compelling is the open-source LLM category, which, while early, is showing solid traction. In any case, we’re keeping a close eye on the downstream impacts of LLMs and how they may impact the other layers we are keen to invest in.

Contextual and local models

While LLMs seem to be in the spotlight, we’ve been focused on investment opportunities in contextual and local models. These models leverage rich, industry or topic-specific data and create value around that data while layering it on top of core LLMs. As you can imagine, the contextual relevance of these models is incredibly powerful within specific industries (like wealth management). Of course, you have to define the data set and then get the AI to learn from that data set to create a valuable output for an application or system.

When it comes to AI—primary data, while interesting, is just a ‘feed-source’ for the models. What actually matters is the value one creates around the primary data and then applies to specific situations. This can become incredibly valuable economically and productivity-wise for the end users, making it an intriguing investment area. Consider PredictHQ (from our Seed I fund); they own the world’s best predictive data models around how events impact certain businesses’ demand. These insights can then be used to power pricing systems, labour scheduling, stock ordering, etc. Prominent tech players such as Google, Facebook, and Amazon have built their entire organisation’s revenue models on collecting and optimising their systems to meet customers’ desired advertising outcomes. They have benefited enormously from this. These new contextual models have the potential to do that for all businesses, not just the ‘big tech’ platforms. All of a sudden, proprietary data sets are back in vogue.

Built-for-purpose applications

In the current landscape, the application layer of AI technology is a hotbed of activity. Many individuals and organisations are fervently exploring strategies to capture the attention of particular audiences and entice them to adopt applications that leverage the immense power of AI.

While there will always be a place for general-purpose applications like ChatGPT, StabilityAI, or Midjourney, the prevailing trajectory in the AI landscape is towards specialised solutions tailored to distinct sectors, categories, or teams. As such, we’re keeping a close eye on the emerging built-for-purpose products that utilise foundational models, potentially layer on their local or contextual data, and make them accessible through various applications.

AI in Australia

I recently sat down with Ryan Black, Head of Policy and Research at the Tech Council of Australia, to frame the local opportunity.

Ryan and I both agree that Australia’s power in the global AI ecosystem will undoubtedly lie in the application layer, particularly in generative AI. While it may not be at the forefront of developing foundational AI models or semiconductors, the country’s strengths in product and software development, cloud computing, and software as a service (SaaS) make it well-suited to harness AI’s potential for innovation and job creation—this emphasis on software-driven innovation positions Australia for success in the AI industry.

Companies like Atlassian and Canva have already begun leveraging AI, and Australia’s strengths in specific industries (like agriculture and hospitality) provide fertile ground for AI innovation. Australia’s journey in AI has the potential to entirely reshape the nation’s technology landscape and economy. The companies that are AI-first in their approach are particularly exciting, ushering in a promising era of innovation and growth in the Australian tech sector.

Ryan Black and Grant McCarthy in conversation

So whether you are a technology founder developing a product or an investor seeking to allocate capital, it’s imperative to consider how AI can substantially enhance products, services, and customer experience. Drawing on an impressive track record of investing in AI-based venture opportunities, Tidal Ventures is well-positioned to consistently identify and champion innovative ventures at the forefront of the AI revolution. Our unwavering confidence in the burgeoning technology landscape means we’re continually uncovering compelling opportunities within both the model and application layers.

We love nothing more than engaging on these topics within the broader business, investment, and technology communities. We believe that these discussions, debates and collaborations lead to some of the most exciting opportunities, so if there is something you’d like to discuss, please don’t be shy and reach out.

Market Conditions: June 2022
Thought Waves

Market Conditions: June 2022

Use your microscope and your telescope simultaneously in times of market uncertainty! In this blog, I share insights from both Australian and US markets, and how founders can best prepare for the upcoming period.
Grant McCarthy
Grant McCarthy
06 Jun 2022
5 min read

Market sentiment has officially changed.

Use your microscope and your telescope simultaneously in times of market uncertainty!

This will be the fourth 'tech cycle' for the Partner team at Tidal. We have invested during the Dotcom era, the Global Financial Crisis, and the short downturn in 2012. This cycle will no doubt be different for a variety of reasons including Covid, the great talent reshuffle, global supply chain issues, and a US inflation rate at a forty-year high.

The underlying message from the various investor notes issued to founders in the past few weeks is clear: for a time, capital has been abundant and cheap. Now it will become expensive, and harder to get.

It is important to note that for Australian start-ups looking to raise a Seed to Series A round in the current market, there is still an abundance of capital that has been committed from LPs to Venture Capital funds in the past twelve months. However, we expect that these funds will be deployed more slowly and carefully than the past three years.

This is a good thing, for founders and for investors. Founders that take the time to get to know their investors will benefit in the long term. It will also focus the funds across Australia into pragmatic and visionary founders that build products for true customer problems, in sectors ripe for disruption.

Insights from the US market

I have just returned from a two week US trip, where I visited both the East and West Coast, meeting with founders and investors. Here are my expectations and insights from the trip:

  • The current revaluing of multi billion dollar technology assets will flow down from public markets and later stage startups to the Seed-Stage investment space. This will impact valuations and capital allocation across the venture capital sector at some point during this next cycle
  • Entry valuations for Seed investments will likely be revised downwards. Founders may need to adjust the amount of capital they raise in order to retain acceptable levels of dilution for their Seed round
  • Companies may need to raise their Seed capital over a series of investment rounds in order to prove product market fit, reach solid levels of revenue traction and demonstrate unit economic profitability before raising a Series A.
Leadership and culture is always important, but in times of market uncertainty it gets put under the microscope.

Takeaways for Seed Stage founders

  • Live your values. Leadership and culture is always important, but in times of market uncertainty it gets put under the microscope. Your team is the lifeblood of your business. Lead with authenticity and empathy, hear the voice of your organisation and communicate effectively with your team. The mission and ethos of your product-building organisation lives on regardless of the ‘noise’ in the market.
  • Get scrappy to fund growth. You can fund your business growth with capital or you can fund it with revenue. The cost of capital is going up, so act accordingly. In times like these, over-index on the growth drivers that generate cash in your business (pricing, packaging, growth hacks, product features).
  • Unit Economics are key. One day, the value that your company creates for shareholders and your ability to fund further innovation will depend on your profit margin. The choices that you make today in the way you build your team, your product and your customer acquisition methods, will shape this future. Profitability is not a can to be kicked down the road, it is a key driver for startup success and now is the time to nail it. Hint: this is not about pinching costs, it’s about stealing market share from your competitors by building the best product and then cracking a low cost path to customer acquisition.
  • Build the best product. Talk to your customers. They will tell you what they will or won’t spend money on. Make sure your product is a must-have for their business to thrive in a downturn. Make it easy for them to try your product, to integrate it into their daily usage, to share it with their colleagues. Create the feature that they can’t live without and entice them to upgrade. Stay true to your core and build with empathy for the user.
  • Know your investors. Whether you are a venture backed startup already or are seeking your first round of funding - the quality of the relationship you have with your investors during this current market, and the collaboration you can share both ways - is critical. Don’t assume the next round of funding is just around the corner, be master of your own destiny.

Tidal looks through the lens of a telescope

Tidal is a Seed-Stage venture fund with long investment horizons. We remain excited about the opportunity to back founders that are in the earliest stages of building their product for global markets, with a view to profitable, sustainable growth.

We can’t profess to have a crystal ball and know what the next cycle will entail, but we do know that the greatest companies in history were created during a market downturn. Capital-constrained environments can produce the most innovative and transformative companies. Our investment team is actively seeking Australia’s best founders and we have ready capital to deploy from our Seed Fund II to support your Seed Phase.

If you're a visionary founder who is ready to make waves, please reach out via our website.

Honing in on the right market
Wave Makers

Honing in on the right market

Antony Martin is a co-founder of Hone. Find out how he and his team have made the transition from technologists to company builders, and have leaned on Tidal to narrow the business' focus and set it up for success.
Grant McCarthy
Grant McCarthy
31 Mar 2022
5 min read

When you’re sitting on some really smart technology with loads of potential applications, what do you do? You choose one market vertical first, and focus on it. For Hone, it’s Agtech.

According to government and industry sources, Australia’s Agtech sector is predicted to be worth $100 billion by 2030, and companies like Hone are at the bleeding edge of this rapid growth.

We recently spoke to one of Hone’s founders, Antony Martin, and he revealed the team’s journey from necessity, through invention, to market identification. Here’s their story and how Tidal got involved.

Starting with the problem

Hone co-founders and scientists Antony Martin, Will Palmer and Jamie Flynn have known each other for years, and worked together at the Hunter Medical Research Institute (HMRI). It was while working together on a research project about biofuels, they found themselves out in a blistering hot field of sorghum, wishing there was an easier way to get the data they needed.

With months of sample processing and analysis ahead of them, including hundreds of lab hours, they came up with a part of the answer: let’s analyze the samples faster using spectroscopy.

A simple definition of spectroscopy is that it measures the interaction of light with the chemical make-up of samples. In practical terms, a spectrometer can quickly tell the difference in quality between different sorghum varieties. So the team hacked together a solution using off-the-shelf components, mathematics, and a unique methodology, and began processing their samples in record time.

It occurred to them that if it could do that for sorghum, it could do that for other crops as well. And so Hone started.

Hone co-founders Dr Antony Martin, centre, with Dr Jamie Flynn, (left), and Dr William Palmer (right)

From faster labs to field tech

One of their early customers was a rice breeding institute in the Philippines. In two weeks, the team had processed 60,000 test results and provided data that would have taken years for the institute to get processed manually. Not satisfied with just fast processing, the team set about making a device to collect data on the spot, from the crop, soil and grain, cutting out the lab altogether.

That’s where things really changed for Hone. From scientists using technology, they became technology builders themselves and sought backing for their ideas.

Tidal entered the picture after a few smaller and one larger angel investor had already taken the lead. It was through one of the angel contacts at the HMRI, that Grant McCarthy was introduced to Hone and the relationship began.

From tech builders to company builders

While not an inexperienced team by the time Tidal came on board as investors, Hone was ready to go from a science tech business to a growth company. “They came in and worked with us on the foundations of the business, particularly on the commercial side and the go to market strategy”. Both Grant and Wendell Keuneman were involved in the early days, “getting their hands dirty and helping out with pricing, identifying customers and really working out who we were trying to serve.”

Hone’s technology can be adapted for use in multiple industries, and they started out with a wide testing field. “I think that there was definitely a sort of aha moment there where it was like, this is not scalable to try and develop every application under the sun.”

Knowing they had to focus, Tidal helped them narrow in on the AgTech vertical before scaling into others. “Wendell, especially, helped us set up our processes around software teams and how we deliver products.”

They called him the “whiteboard warrior” and many sessions were held to discuss “how we were structuring things, how we were thinking about the business, and how to scale the team up.”

Hone's in-field testing device

The learning and commercial curve

“People tell you stories about VCs”, Antony says. “They say be careful who you bring on. But we have always found Tidal very supportive. They really understand what we're going through. They've seen it all before and have the best intentions to help us get to the next level.”

Hone is currently emerging from what Antony describes as an engineering and R&D  phase, to a new commercial phase. And Grant is a “wealth of knowledge when it comes to that.” Apart from sitting on the board, he has been “pulled into offsite planning sessions, advising on the business roadmap, the org structure, capabilities, and culture.”

“Learning and doing well at the same time is hard”, Antony remarks. “We’ve got to learn fast while building up the commercial side of the business.” Since coming on board, Grant and Wendell have “always been there to advise on the strategic direction of the business.”

When asked about the learning curve, Antony responded, “we thrive on the process of learning. We want to operate in a mode of constant reflection and constant learning, so that we constantly improve.”

No limit to scale

The selection of Agtech as the focus vertical is meaningful to Antony and his team. And the focus on primary crop data is significant. “Primary data inputs are a rare commodity in agriculture and really help the farmer maximize the productivity of their crop and their land.”

It’s the same with VCs. Choose one that helps you achieve your primary goal. Or in Antony’s words, “if you’re going to get in bed with a VC, choose someone who's there to support you and the business, and help you through all the difficult things. Find one focused on founders, rather than just providing money.”

By honing in on their primary market, Hone is on track to develop countless other applications for their tech. Starting with the whole farming lifecycle and encompassing soil health, regenerative agriculture, carbon offset measurements, and moving into food and beverage testing, environmental monitoring, medical testing and more. Antony is excited about the possibilities, “I think if we can just nail it with one key vertical, the sky's the limit.”

Investment Notes: Renewtrak
Investment Notes

Investment Notes: Renewtrak

We are thrilled to have led Renewtrak's Seed round. Renewtrack facilitates and automates renewals of technology contracts between vendor, channel partner, and end customers, using intelligent automation to help vendors quote and convert more renewal revenue opportunities.
Grant McCarthy
Grant McCarthy
29 Oct 2021
5 min read

Renewtrak is a platform for lifting the conversion rate of renewals for technology providers. It digitally automates the end-to-end logistics of renewals from quote to payment, including sales, pricing, billing, and commission constructs.

The Tidal team recently made an investment into Renewtrak, and we're publishing our investment notes below. We invest across a range of markets, models, and products. There are core principles that we live and die by in our investment decisions. For more information on the pillars that make a great Tidal Seed Investment, see how we invest here.

Markets with tailwinds

The market for technology is enormous - there is US$5.2T (yes, trillion) in global indirect technology spend per year. It is also growing rapidly. As technology investors, we have deep conviction that technology will continue to 'eat the world' and take a larger share of organisational spend globally.

Renewals are a significant component of this revenue pool, estimated at US$260B per year, across ~3,500 software and hardware vendors and ~140,000 channel partners and resellers globally. This revenue pool is expected to rapidly accelerate, as technology businesses continue to transition away from one-time sales, towards annualised recurring 'as-a-service' business models, which are highly valued for their predictability and customer loyalty.

Recurring renewal revenues

While renewals from existing customers are critical to margins, profitability, and customer retention, they are poorly served.

Hardware and software vendors can expect to lose between 15-50% of their renewal opportunities because the end customer is not even aware their product or service is due for renewal

Renewals often do not receive the same degree of organisational focus, talent, and resources as new sales, and renewal processes are plagued by manual processes, legacy technology, disparate and low-quality data, complex pricing structures, and poor transactional experiences. The intermediated relationships between technology vendors (OEM's), resellers (channel partners), and end customers make this challenge even more acute, creating a lack of ownership and responsibility for the renewal experience.

Products that change the game

Enter Renewtrak - a workflow automation solution for renewal transactions, with a vision to help the global technology industry to move towards a subscription revenue model. Renewtrak's platform does the heavy lifting of ingesting and consolidating data across the vendor, channel partner, and customer, and managing the renewal process from end to end. The product digitally automates the logistics of renewals from quote to payment, including sales, pricing, billing, and commission constructs.

For technology vendors and distributors, this is game-changing - driving additional recurring revenues by quoting and converting more renewal opportunities, reducing the time and expense involved in renewals, adding organisational control and oversight of transactions, and deepening customer relationships through improved data and payments experiences.

A team that hustles

The Renewtrak team has a strong pedigree in financial services, with payments and workflow simplification embedded in their DNA. The team is led by CEO Mathew Cagney, supported by CTO Andrew Duckworth, CPO Alex Wood, and CCO Paul Dunn, and with active involvement from Chairman Michael Twaits. We have engaged closely with the leadership team closely over the past 12 months as they have driven Renewtrak towards the strong position it is in today, and we are confident that they are fully equipped to scale.

Renewtrak CEO Mathew Cagney

A compelling business model

Renewtrak is focused on accessing a vendor's 'renewals under management' (RUM) to quote and automate. Renewtrak earns subscription revenues for consolidating the customer data and managing the renewals workflows, and consumption revenues through fees applied for success in improving customers' renewal conversion rates.

The model provides for a strong 'land and expand' story. For a given vendor, the RUM accessible to Renewtrak depends on the geography, product type, renewal channel, and value of the renewal. If Renewtrak can demonstrate value by improving renewals revenues, vendors may then choose to apply Renewtrak to additional pools of RUM by expanding product use across more geographies, product types, and renewal thresholds. By connecting both vendors and distributors to customers, there is also the potential for vendors to roll out Renewtrak across additional distributor relationships, and for distributors to recommend Renewtrak to their broader stable of vendors.

Our thesis: Renewtrak has the potential to enjoy powerful network effects by demonstrating value through its core renewals product, then enabling core services to be offered through its 'platform' connecting vendors, distributors and customers, and then opening up that platform to third-party service providers across the technology category, creating an ecosystem.

The Seed Phase

The team at Renewtrak is squarely in its Seed Phase. They have built a powerful platform for renewals automation, landed major technology customers including HP, Lenovo, VMWare, and rolled out the product in over 40 countries. Near-term, the focus is on demonstrating continuing improvement in customers' renewal conversion rates while accessing a growing pool of RUM from customers as the platform is rolled out across additional geographies, product lines, and renewal thresholds.

A note on the workflow automation thematic

Tidal is actively investing behind businesses that help automate important organisational workflows, spanning customer engagement (Upflowy), and transactional processes (FrankieOne) to date. With technology driving continued improvements in customer experience, businesses are being challenged to leverage automation technology to improve workforce productivity, data and analytics capabilities, customer engagement processes, and payments offerings. This can unlock more personalised and better supported product offerings, and deeper customer relationships. Renewtrak is one of many tools we see emerging in this space.

We look forward to continuing to support the Renewtrak team as they build out the product, grow the team, and support their customers to generate more recurring revenues. If you're a visionary founder who is ready to make waves, please reach out via our website.

Thanks to Max Kausman and Evelyn Zhang for help in drafting this post.

Shippit: Seed to Series B
Investment Notes

Shippit: Seed to Series B

Why we led Shippit's Seed round back in 2017, and why we've continued to invest through to Series B.
Grant McCarthy
Grant McCarthy
18 Dec 2020
5 min read

Shippit is a logistics orchestration platform enabling the selection and management of carriers for delivery of goods by retailers of all sizes.

Earlier this month, Shippit announced a A$30 million Series B led by New York-headquartered venture capital fund, Tiger Global. This brings the company's total funding to A$41 million since 2017, commencing with the Seed round led by Tidal Ventures (branded as AddVenture Fund at the time).

Let's travel back in time for a minute and look at the opportunity from the perspective of our 2017 investment notes.  

Markets with tailwinds

We shared a belief with many investors that e-commerce would be the long-term retail transaction method of choice for consumers. The purchase convenience of any time, anywhere, along with the unlimited choice and price comparison consumers have online was always going to outshine a physical store.

It was our view that both the logistics infrastructure and the overall experience for the Retailer and the Consumer were broken.  The average NPS for delivery experience in Australia hovered around -35, so we clearly weren't the only ones with this view. The broken state of this market looked like a classic technology opportunity to us.

Our thesis: changing customer expectations & innovation that disrupts legacy systems and improves supply chain inefficiencies will power the growth in e-commerce globally

Founders that hustle

William On and Rob Hango-Zada

Cliché, but this continues to be a question we ask ourselves for each new opportunity: can the founders do what it takes to persevere. What we recognised in Rob and Will as founders from our very first meeting was their uniquely complementary skills, their unhinged enthusiasm for the challenge, and most of all, their ability and willingness to listen and learn from others.

The Seed round was all about investing in Rob and Will as founders to see if they could execute a basic and repeatable promise and experience to retailers. They nailed it.

Shippit continues to demonstrate one of the best can-do cultures we have seen.

Series A: a defensible moat

Fast forward to Series A. We examine how the company created a moat surrounding its product and opportunity set, the key to it cementing a credible position within the market.

Building trust with customers

As a 'SaaS as a Network' business, the size of the marketplace (or network) was critical to underpinning demand for the software. To achieve material growth in the network in the early days it was critical to build demand volume that would provide for a critical mass of suppliers (carriers). Winning large volume Retailers to underwrite the ability for the business to attract carriers on the platform was key. The business focused on winning key logos early, whilst simultaneously creating brand association & awareness through content-led programs like the Rocketeers of Retail.

This volume also enabled the company to prove out its carrier selection algorithm, an automated assessment of the "right carrier x right delivery type x right price" (think of this as the logistic industry’s version of Google’s quality score!). Shippit began to provide Retailers with an aggregated view of their deliveries and started directing volumes to carriers a Retailer may never have used before. The improved performance off the back of these initiatives formed the foundation for a trusting relationship between Shippit and the Retailer.  

Shippit offered Retailers transparency. The delivery of that promise (no pun intended...) built a small flywheel in its volume momentum that has underpinned the business’ growth to date.

Route intelligence

Building a sustainable competitive advantage through the delivery insights provides benefits beyond their customers, but also the parcel recipient.

Shippit is able to intelligently route parcels for e-commerce retailers and in turn provide superior quality, performance and rates.

Series B: Product-led growth

We talk a lot about product-led-growth ("PLG") within the virtual four walls of Tidal. We see this as a critical capability for a startup to achieve superior unit economics and significant operational leverage.

Shippit’s ability to unlock the value of PLG in the last 12 months played a critical role in the success of its Series B.

Things at Shippit were growing exceptionally well from the end of 2019 into early 2020, but we still had to ask ourselves all the normal questions when COVID hit: 'How will we be impacted? Do we need to cut costs? How will we keep staff safe? How will we change the way we sell when we can’t meet anyone?'.

Rob, Will,  the entire leadership team and staff stepped up and made some tough calls – they reduced the workforce by 20% and cut expenditure on non-core projects. Most importantly, Rob and Will sat back and asked the question:

What does this give us the opportunity to do and can we make changes for the better for our business, staff and our customers?

The actions they implemented in response have led to achieving some of the best growth SaaS operating metric's we have seen in any market. John Curtius from Tiger Global agrees with us, having been quoted in the AFR saying, "Shippit has some of the best metrics we've seen for a company raising at this stage".  

Positioning and customer segmentation

We took a deep-dive with the team on the positioning of Shippit’s value prop for each of its customers segments. The end result: Enterprise and SMB segments now have fundamentally different messaging and value propositions, which drive more efficient marketing spend and higher customer satisfaction & stickiness.

High volume funnel

The most significant change was the process of structuring their inbound funnel to support high volumes. Introducing more self-serve capabilities allowed the shift from pre-sales to post sign-up product qualified leads that were either pure low-touch or assisted by a Customer Success function. This materially impacted their ability to acquire customers efficiently at scale. This transition (which is in continual refinement) came to fruition when the explosion in demand during lockdown serviced the step-change in growth with limited headcount expansion.

By capturing leads after a customer had experienced firsthand the value of the platform, Shippit was able to bypass the need to "sell the dream" and focus on an exceptional customer experience and revenue expansion, thereby unlocking the strategic value of PLG

To a billion parcels and beyond 🚀

We’ve now invested in Shippit at Seed, Series A, Series A extension, and Series B, and we know we’ll keep going. We are in the early days of mass consumer adoption of e-commerce and we believe these founders and this business has what it takes to build a significant enterprise. We congratulate them on the journey so far and look forward to the challenges ahead.

A note on the e-commerce thematic

We have strong conviction that there will be a number of winners in the e-commerce tooling space – in other words, the businesses that provide the picks and shovels to Retailers that help them build and deliver great experiences for their customers (other examples span product search, payments, inventory management and so on). Post-transaction, logistics for the fulfillment of the order is a critical component to ensure an e-commerce experience has comparable or improved benefits over traditional shopping. Shippit is advancing towards this ambitious goal within Australia and South East Asia. If you're a visionary founder who is ready to make waves, please reach out via our website.